Tvrdý podvozek - nerovnosti - O2 1.2 tsi

[Danniell]

Chci se zeptat na věc ohledně podvozku octavia 2, 1.2 tsi, rv. 2011, najeto 175 000km, aktuálně pneu r16-  zimní.

Jsem dva měsíce vlastníkem O2, předtím jsem vlastnil O1 1.6mpi, 2001.

Současná O2 se mi zdá podvozkově dost tvrdá oproti předešlé O1. O2 je v technicky výborném stavu, celou dobu servis v aut. servisu, dohledaná celá servis historie, prošla v aut. servisu po prodejní kontrolou jen s problémem hlučnější klimatizace. Nikde nic netluče, nebouchá, tlumiče netečou, pěkně drží auto, při větším díře tak jen jedno tlumení, takže žádné x-krat, že by byly tlumiče po smrti.

Ale jde mi o to, že když jedu a stačí aby silnice nebyla zcela rovná ale trosku zvlněnátak to s autem klepe, poskakuje, je to nepříjemné když pořád cítím klepání, poskakování, zdá se mi, že od zadní nápravy i při minimálním zvlnění vozovky. Máme doma GOLF 6G, takže stejný podvozek ale ten tento problém nemá, ten to krásně vyžehlí.

Auto bylo v aut. servisu a tam řekli, že podvozkově je vše v pořádku a že O2 a O3 jsou oproti  podvozkově dost tvrdé. A že po kontrolní jízdě je má O2 zcela v pořádku.

Zvažuji ještě, že zajedu na STK změřit tlumiče ale to mi v servisu řekli, že naměří 100%. že ba naopak má O2 nemá vylítaný podvozek.

Chci se teda zeptat jaké máte zkušenosti vy? A jestli nevíte co by to klepání auta a poskakovaní i při min. nerovnosti, kterou jiné vozy ani nezaznamenají mohlo dělat?  Díky

 

PS: Je to, jak když mám sportovní podvozek ale namotovám tam je originál z výroby, původní.

[Romerros]

A nemáš jenom přefoukané gumy, když je podvozek O.K ?

[Pawouk]

OII má obecně tvrdší podvozek než jiná auta. Tohle tady asi nevyřešíš. A víš skutečně jistě, že tam nemáš originální sportovní podvozek?

[Danniell]

To Romerros: Gumy jsou nafoukle dle predpisu na vicku nadrze

To Pawouk: Jak zjistim, ze tam treba je ten sportovni podvozek z vyroby?

Editováno: 9. Prosinec 2017, autor: Danniell

[Pawouk]

Např. podle VIN ti to zjistí autorizák.

[sk0d@]

Ked ho sem napises, tak mozno aj tu

[Danniell]

TMBCM61Z0C2090759 

 

tady je vin, budu rad jestli se podivate zda tam neni sport podvozek, ale dle cebia protokolu ve vybave vozu zadny sport podvozek zaznamenan neni.

[McMatej]

Nebylo by to spíš na "Datovém štítku"? http://cs.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/owners-manuals/pages/octavia-1z.aspx?requestOwnersManualOnlineVersion=cz/Octavia_1Z/11-2012/Manual/Octavia/online&requestOwnersManualLanguage=cz&requestOwnersManualEditionDate=11-2012&requestOwnersManualPage=1&printPage=1&pageId=00492#X-XC2IQV0CYXpp a dekodér http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

[sk0d@]

16 hours ago, Danniell said:

TMBCM61Z0C2090759 

 

tady je vin, budu rad jestli se podivate zda tam neni sport podvozek, ale dle cebia protokolu ve vybave vozu zadny sport podvozek zaznamenan neni.

Octavia Ambiente farba Candy biela vyrobena v krasny datum  11.11.11

Motor CBZB, prevodovka NBW

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Editováno: 11. Prosinec 2017, autor: sk0d@

[Danniell]

To sk0d@: Takže tam je klasický podvozek, když se vy výpisu o žádném sportovním nepíše?

Editováno: 11. Prosinec 2017, autor: Danniell

[sk0d@]

podla vsetkeho ano. Tusim 2UC je Sport.

[Danniell]

Tak, když tam je originál podvozek tak asi opravdu podvozek u O2 je tvrdý, píšou to i u recenzí když vyjela O2 FL jako nová, že její mínus je tuhý podvozek.

[Danniell]

Včera jsem s vozem na STK na testu tlumičů výsledky: předek 91% zadek 100%. Takže tlumíče na výbornou, žádna vůle nikde, když jsme s techniekm koukali z díry. Jen mi říkal, že se mu zda, že zadní pružiny jsou měněné jelikož jsou v moc hezké stavu, mají bilý pruh a označeni HFH, můžete mi řící zda jsou to originál pružiny? Dle servisní historie vozu by to měly být origo.

 

Po dvou kontrolách a testu na STK se mi zdá vozidlo stále tvrdé, asi jsem zhýčkaný z O1, která měla vyteklé tlumiče a byl to spis Citroen

[Návštěvník]

OII ma tvrdy podvozok, uskakana koza, ked presadnem do druheho auta co mam Passatu B6 2009 tak to sa to neda porovnat v komforte.

[deto]

Ked som jazdil s O2, bola sice tvrda, ale mal som pocit, ze mam auto viac pod kontrolou nez napr. S3.

Viac som vnimal stav vozovky a limitne situacie. To co som si dovolil s O2 na S3 odvahu nemam

[Brutus74]

 

Po delší pauze se přidám s informací.

Ano je to tak O2 je podvozkem tvrdá, měl jsem O1 s motorem 1,9 tdi  66kw a přechod na O2  poměrně horší.

Test tlumičů jsem také absolvoval zadní horší nechal jsem vyměnit a také pružiny ( bez lepšího výsledku)

Prostě jedničková řada byla pohodlnější trvalo mě rok než jsem to přestal řešit.

Zadní pružiny jsem nedával originální , možná by to bylo o něco lepší ,ale určitě ne tolik.

Pružiny jsem řešil i z důvodu ,že zadek auta seděl níž než předek (nic se nezměnilo)

Někdo tu radil dát pružiny pro větší zatížení ,ale to už by byla koza skákavá 

[Návštěvník]

OII je tvrda aj na 15" pneu.

Nechapem ludi co do tohu napchaju 19", to su psychopati.

Ale oni ti napisu, ze to je vpohode  

Golf ma komfornejsi podvozok.